i Cryptic Crossword 3085 Daedalus

December 28, 2020

In case you’re confused it’s Monday, and a Bank Holiday one at that, though as many of us won’t be working this week it would be easy to overlook. Thankfully the paper boy is working through, and the pre-Christmas tip having paid off my paper has arrived by 7AM for the second day running, the first one being Boxing Day at that.

We start the week with an IoS reprint, though being Daedalus it’s one that’s a little knotty. I’m guessing I wasn’t alone in completing the longer entries with little understanding of what was going on with the wordplay, and elsewhere too. Though to my shame I notice that one in particular that left me puzzled – even if there was only one bloomer I knew that would fit the checking letters – was the hidden word at 7d. Hidden words are a bit of a blind spot for me, but bravo to the setter nevertheless for hiding it so well. Elsewhere 13ac and 14ac left me similarly bemused. The rest though went in fully parsed in a time somewhat over par for the i.

Much to appreciate in what was an always engaging, enjoyable puzzle, my COD nomination going to 1ac – “That’s the attractive girl I saw! Is it the scullery-maid?”.

And so to November 2016 for all the answers and parsing of the clues:

https://www.fifteensquared.net/2016/11/06/independent-on-sunday-1394daedalus/

22 Responses to “i Cryptic Crossword 3085 Daedalus”

  1. Topsy said

    I am going through a definite malaise when it comes to crosswords. The Hoskins nonsense put me off and I couldn’t summon up any enthusiasm for today’s offering. I am finding drugs, poo, sexual refererences etc. be tedious. I think with all that’s going on in the world I’m looking for escapism which I’m not finding. I do have a question though… why is Loch Ness “dangerous”?

  2. jonofwales said

    Presumably because of the monster. 😀

  3. dtw42 said

    Well, I breezed through this happily enough until I got to the SE corner, which took me quite a while. (Like for Topsy, the ‘poo’ in 20 did garner a tired tut, though I was, er, relieved that the ‘go’ in 24 for once *wasn’t* pee or wee.) I had an amused ‘ha’ against 1ac and 5dn though, so agree with the COD choice.

    • dtw42 said

      PS, to show what a hypocrite I am, I’ve just laughed out loud at a limerick on Twitter with both wee and poo in it. My excuse (and I’m sticking to it) is that limericks are *supposed* to be scatological, whereas crosswords are meant to be intellectual.

      • Topsy said

        Dtw, I find limericks amusing too and I know many which are probably too crude to print but I simply don’t want smut in my crosswords. So I guess I must be a hypocrite as well!

      • batarde said

        It’s been a while since we had an exchange of limericks around here … 🙂

  4. Denzo said

    Sorry to disappoint, but the monster is no more dangerous than Santa Claus. However Loch Ness is very deep so there is danger of hypothermia if swimming even in summer.

    An enjoyable puzzle. I managed to parse14A, but like 13 very little would fit. “Bemused” is not the word I would have used for 14, but it is more printable. Your CoD raised a laugh, but my fav was 5d; I didn’t get it until I actually wrote down EXPIATE, a double homophone which I think works with all regional accents. Ironically, with the possible exception of MS-DOS, XP is Microsoft’s best product whereas the short-lived Windows 8 among the worst.

    I guess I must be a hypocrite, too, as I laughed at SHAMPOO, but am annoyed with the constant use of the “F” word on TV

    • Denzo said

      I intended to write ““Bemused” is not the word I would have used for 13”. 8D was also a bit off, but 14 was OK for me.

  5. Cornick said

    A curate’s egg of a puzzle, which happens more than it should, unfortunately. If Daedalus had reworked the weaker clues – like 7d in particular, but also the crossing 6a (plus I personally didn’t like 14a or 5a, maybe a few others) then it could have been very good. Quite liked COD, but I think 24a was my pick of the clues today.

    • Cornick said

      Sorry, 7d was excellent, I mean 8d – BERATE, which was poor.

    • thebargee said

      Not one for me, lost interest with about a third to go, don’t think I was really in the mood today.
      I consoled myself with (yet another) mince pie.

  6. Saboteur said

    A puzzle of two halves for me, the LHS going in all very readily, with the RHS proving rather less tractable.

    REORDER had me puzzled; as far as I can see it is three bits of word-play with no definition. Put in BERATE with a frown, but I suppose it just about works. Couldn’t parse WASH AND BRUSH UP, apart from “was up” and B from “bride”. Not sure if I can now, even after visiting Fifteensquared.

  7. Veronica said

    I agree, Topsy. I’m fine with the odd clue / answer sailing close to the wind. But it isn’t funny when overdone.
    Not that it worried me today. The crossword was simply too difficult for me, so no poos showed up. I managed only about half of it.
    14 across seems to have been unpopular. Fir me it was COD! It made me laugh, even if it did seem to have three cryptic bits and no definition!

  8. batarde said

    Hmm, well it wasn’t as junior school as Saturday’s, at least. I took grave exception to the Snowflake Sudoku, however. A pretty mixed bag all told, and it’s gratifying to see many of my misgivings are shared by others. As Cornick says, 6ac and 8d were a bit short of the merchantable quality threshold, especially taken together. However, we part company on 14ac which is a clear COD for me given its threefold nature. 24ac was also pleasing, if not unprecedented. Not sure I’m tuned into Daedalus’ wavelength – the quality does seem rather erratic.

    • Cornick said

      Re 14a, the last 8 words plus a QM would indeed have been a cracker in my book – just needed a prune, I’d say.
      But I do note that at least two of you loved it in the extended edition version. 🙂

  9. Willow said

    I really liked much of this, but six clues were initially very puzzling indeed. However, when thought through carefully (and almost at the extremes of my own, rather pedestrian, personal intellectual ability …) they did eventually make sense. To summarise: very enjoyable – many thanks! Hoskins, please take note.

  10. allan_c said

    Struggled a bit with this despite having done it back in 2016 – but that’s how it goes sometimes.

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