i Cryptic Crossword 3035 Klingsor

October 29, 2020

Cornick should be pleased as we have a Thursday reprint from Klingsor that was a little tougher than some offerings this week, though it must be said one that was gentle as far as such reprints go. So perhaps there will still be cause for complaint. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Lots here that went in not fully understand, or not understood at all (the quote and short work being the chief suspects), though I do suspect that was more due to laziness on my part rather than any inherent difficulty. The dictionary was referred to for the salmon and 5ac, but the rest didn’t cause too much difficulty, with a finish time about par for the i.

For a while I thought the preponderance of composers indicated a theme, and a hasty VIVALDI the possibility of some sort of Maize record breaking pangram, but it appears that we have a good, solid, thoroughly enjoyable puzzle free of gimmicks. Famous last words.

COD? Lots to like, with my nomination going to 4d – “Gamblers in America who repeatedly miss the target? (12)”.

To June 2016:

https://www.fifteensquared.net/2016/06/16/independent-9258-klingsor/

20 Responses to “i Cryptic Crossword 3035 Klingsor”

  1. Topsy said

    I really enjoyed this! With 25ac in first I tackled 18d next and ptried to convince myself that there was a composer called “pignora”. Anagram of ring, a and op!! I was familiar with the salmon because of memories of Sunday Tea, back in the 60s. My Mum would treat us to the luxury of tinned salmon sandwiches ๐Ÿ™‚

  2. thebargee said

    I enjoyed this too. 1dn was a write-in, swiftly followed by most of the NW corner, but then things got decidedly tougher. In fact, having written in PIECES for 5ac, I had all but given up with the NE unfinished, and started to read the blog. As soon as I read that the dictionary was referred to for 5 ac, the right answer came to me from some dark and dusty mental recess, allowing me to complete the puzzle. So thanks Jon!!
    I think my favourite of the day was 11dn, very clever misdirection in the first three words (fooled me anyway).
    10ac was new to me as a verb.

  3. Jayjay said

    Being word-perfect in the lyrics of Guys & Dolls, including the song “It’s the oldest established, permanent, floating, crap game in New York” 4d should have been a write-in, but I needed a crosser or two, to my shame. Didn’t know the salmon, but fine with specie. Enjoyed this very much on another soggy day. Thanks Klingsor and Jon

  4. Cornick said

    Well thatโ€™s more like it! Something for the seasoned veterans – although even this was gentle by Klingsor standards, I thought. Mind you, Iโ€™d better be careful – every time I think Iโ€˜ve got this crossword malarkey licked, someone like Nimrod comes along and puts me firmly back in my place!
    The COD made me laugh, and I too reached for the dictionary to check that fish, but otherwise all very do-able sans aids, as Klingsor invariably is.

  5. saboteur said

    Yes, this was great. CRAPSHOOTERS was indeed fun, although it was my last 9ne in, and I needed e-help for it. I also needed to Google the nates/prat thing. Otherwise all good. Not quite as challenging as !ingsor canbe, but still, a thoroughly enjoyable solve.

    I did wonder, at one point, when I had a lot of Vs in my grid, whether something was going to emerge – but apparently not.

    • saboteur said

      Sorry for the typos, again. I really must stop commenting using my mobile. Or else get smaller fingers.

  6. Guy Barry said

    Agreed – a great puzzle. 4dn was laugh-out-loud stuff (and I’m quite pleased I got it with only one crossing letter!). Surprised that no one’s given a commendation to 20ac, which I thought was very ingenious. 25ac was cleverly done as well.

    Suspected that 14dn might be LEFT-HANDED quite early on but didn’t enter it; I thought EDNA was the “woman going around” and couldn’t see where the H and D came from! After getting 29ac I realized it was LEFT-HANDER, but still couldn’t get the parsing.

    Was unsure about 24dn because I’d normally spell it “suss”, certainly as a verb. “Romance” = “lie” came up again in 17ac (not keen on this).

    Needed Crossword Solver for 19dn, although I vaguely knew the word. Also for 11dn, which went completely over my head because I didn’t spot “all there” as the definition!

    On those grounds, then, I nominate 11dn as my Clue of the Day.

  7. Denzo said

    Agreed, easy for Klingsor, half finished before I went out this morning. Only one word I didn’t know, and parsed everything.

    Though it didn’t come easily, I was familar with CRAPS from a musical, probably Guys and Dolls, and SOCKEYE, some of which I can’t wait to buy tomorrow from a certain supermarket which does “20% off” fish on Friday.

    First one in was PIECES, but, thinking it too obvious for Klingsor, I hesitated and wrote it in lightly. No surprise, therfore that the NE corner caused a stumbling block at the end. Then I remembered that PIECES might be wrong, that SPECIE is a word and also, since inherent is andjective, maybe INHERE is a verb. A quick look at the dictionary completed the grid.

    INVERTED COMMA could have been my CoD, but I recall a similarly parsed clue a few months ago to which the answer was Apostrophe and, judging from the lack of comment above, so do others. So I’ll go with COMPOST MENTIS, having spent too long thinking the definition was “All there is…”!

    • Denzo said

      Sorry Typo in penultimate paragraph (for which I can’t even use mobile phone as excuse!). Should be “Since `inherent’ is an adjective”. And I forgot – I accept “reversing” as a reversing indicator, but it seems to be an anagram indicator here. Mustn’t grumble too much as I got it, but is it fair?

      • Guy Barry said

        “Reversing” is a reversal indicator in 23ac (reversal of DESERTS around S for “double bend”). I presume that “anagram indicator” is an error in the Fifteensquared blog.

        I missed the parsing of that clue originally, as I thought that “double bend” meant double S and couldn’t get DEERTS from “defects”.

  8. batarde said

    A pleasure from start to finish, which wasn’t as long a time as one might have hoped, but heigh ho. Unusually I have a couple of double ticks, for 11d and, Mr Barry will be glad to hear, 20ac. Nonetheless, I concur with Jon on the COD, even though it only got the one tick and a :-). As someone said to me earlier, given the likely state of the winter in the offing we could all do with some silliness. This really was a super piece of work, exceedingly entertaining without any “look at me” pyrotechnics, and all the more impressive for that.

  9. dtw42 said

    I failed to get 19ac.
    But apart from that, I finished in a much quicker time than I expected for Klingsor, even being quite pleased with myself for knowing prat = nates. Yes, of course, 4dn got a “haha” from me too and therefore would be COD.
    I think I’d already got 7dn by the time I looked at 5ac with any seriousness, so didn’t fall into the PIECES trap.

  10. Poirot Town said

    Super grrr – had ‘Crapslingers’ for 4d…

  11. allan_c said

    Can’t really improve on my comment back in 2016. 4dn was a new word to me then, and I’d forgotten it in the interim but it came back.

  12. Denzo said

    In reply to Guy B, thanks, I agree. I had not noticed, until now, that DEFECTS had become DESERTS (which is quite OK)! I recall putting in STRESSED whilst thinking it was the only one I couldn’t parse. My concerns were not diminished by looking, too briefly perhaps, at 225. Quite a clever clue, in fact, as reversing DESSERTS has already been used. Too clever for me, as often!

  13. imsewell said

    Cant help feeling that other setters would have got away with some of the clueing. ‘Noodle’ for Turkey? is my main objection. Turkey isn’t a noun for a silly person is it? And noodle doesn’t work as a flop/ failure.

  14. From Chambers: turkey n (sl, chiefly NAm); a fool, a slow or inept person

    Collins has the same.

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