i Cryptic Crossword 2281 Klingsor

May 31, 2018

Another Thursday, and another Thursday Indy reprint. It appears we’re making a habit of these. 🙂 I didn’t find this one to be too tricky, overall, though I must admit to googling 2d because – surely that isn’t a real dance? Well yes, as it turns out it is. A few question marks here and there – LOUT for bumpkin? Apparently, yes. What was “Gore” doing in 7d? Duncanshiell’s got that covered over on the other side as well. I remain to be convinced that 13ac is a valid construction – surely we need to be told that the “young female” in question’s letters aren’t contiguous? Most solvers will have got the point, anyway, but it’s at times like this that I wonder what Don Manley would make of the clue.

Lots to like, including some nice wordplay and well disguised definitions – was I the only person to think “but I don’t know any South Africans”? Enjoyable throughout, my COD goes to 1ac – “For it good new walls are favoured primarily? (8)”.

To February 2014:

http://www.fifteensquared.net/2014/02/20/independent-8534-klingsor/

9 Responses to “i Cryptic Crossword 2281 Klingsor”

  1. batarde said

    With the exception of those bumpkins I thought this was a crossword entirely without flaw, and about as good an example of fit and finish as one could hope to see. 13ac didn’t bother me at all, but it’s certainly not orthodox. It probably wouldn’t pass muster at The Times, but neither would it raise an eyebrow at The Guardian … one of those. Anyway, exceedingly happy customer here: bravo.

  2. dtw42 said

    Bah, must be just me and my habitual reaction to Klingsor’s name then. It’s ten past six in the evening and I’ve just abandoned ship with about half the grid done; not enjoying this one at all.

  3. sprouthater said

    Easier to solve than the usual Thursday fare but parsing was a different matter especially the lout and the oyster and the “Gore ” bit.

  4. dtw42 said

    EDIT: came back to it and finally finished (7.25); still not my cup of tea though.

  5. My LOI – 3d. Still not convinced that presses = lies.

    • Cornick said

      I agree about ‘lies’. I wonder if Klingsor kept it in in order to have at least one clue shorter than five words, maybe? He needn’t have bothered, for me his longer-than-the-average clues are terrific!

    • allan_c said

      I also wondered about ‘lie’ for ‘press’ but it’s in Chambers.

  6. Cornick said

    Well dwt, I’m sorry it wasn’t yours, but it certainly was mine – I love the way Klingsor puts clues together – they’re just so goddam satisfying; the algebra or whatever-it-is of the wordplay is impeccable, yet the surface is saying something completely different. I loved it.
    Mind you, I expect that dance would have been a stinker had I not encountered it recently in ‘A Christmas Carol’.

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