i Cryptic Crossword 1785 Klingsor

October 28, 2016

I found this the most difficult puzzle of the week and in parts pretty disagreeable but also in other parts quite clever. Amongst the disagreeable parts, 1a with its drugs reference lost me completely ,the answer only going in because I had the M and N and could only find one composer to fit. 6d also required a knowledge of a (to me) obscure composer to get an equally obscure answer. 2d also got a grimace ” Turn in ” I have always understood to mean Go to bed not Go home. 18a also got a grimace. It wasn’t all bad though I had quite a few ticked , 13,15,22,24a  16,17 and 18d among them. However  I’m torn between 10a, 21a and 20d for my pick so in Call My Bluff style I will plump for

COD 20d       One disappearing from air, involved in going round Earth  (7)

For a thorough explanation of the clues and a word from the setter click here http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/04/12/independent-7954klingsor/



8 Responses to “i Cryptic Crossword 1785 Klingsor”

  1. jonofwales said

    This was definitely the hardest puzzle of the week, the NW corner I thought particularly so. 1ac I didn’t like – an obscure composer and an obscure bit of slang. Lots I did like, 10ac in particular which appealed to my sense of humour.

  2. AndyT said

    Quite a few demonstrations of Arachne’s Law, weren’t there? I rather enjoyed it, for all that. Somehow I simply knew the solution to 1ac straight away, but it took ages to work out why – funny how that sometimes happens. If forced to pick a COD I’d go along with Jon and plump for 10ac.

  3. Cornick said

    In my book Acrophobia (which confounded some on the other channel) counts as general knowledge, whereas Arvo Part and Mr Mascagni count as specialist fare – the latter clued in contravention of Arachne’s Law indeed.
    Heigh-ho, we’re all different I suppose, but the last few 1a, 15a, 2d, 17d took me ages.

    • AndyT said

      There’s also altophobia – fear of heights again. A tad unfortunate, that.

      • Cornick said

        Never heard of that one.
        Re composers, I had a look in my Chambers Crossword Dictionary. 150 odd named, including Mascagni and Part. (friend round for tea knew them both btw – but she’s a Music teacher!)
        I reckon I knew just over 100 of those names, so that puts todays two between 100th and 150th place. In footballing terms about the same as – ooh, say Peter Lorimer!

      • AndyT said

        How very odd … I have heard of Mr Lorimer. 🙂 Composers are one of my stronger suits, admittedly.

        There was another niggle which I forgot to mention, namely that “eth” in 1d. I’ve never seen it spelled that way (and it makes no sense at all to do so, in terms of phonetics) – always “edh”. The OED mentions the former spelling under the entry for the latter, but plainly does not approve. I’m guessing that Chambers disagrees?

      • Cornick said

        p534: edh. See eth.

  4. dtw42 said

    Hm, I was fine with the eth and with both composers (though 6dn was still one of my last few in). But I agree that this was a toughie and am glad to come here and find I wasn’t the only one to think so. I think I often struggle with Klingsor; clearly not quite on his wavelength.

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